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Sirach 8 Comparison: Douay-Rheims vs KJV with Apocrypha

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Sirach 8

1Strive not with a powerful man, lest thou fall into his hands.

2Contend not with a rich man, lest he bring an action against thee.

3For gold and silver hath destroyed many, and hath reached even to the heart of kings, and perverted them.

4Strive not with a man that is full of tongue, and heap not wood upon his fire.

5Communicate not with an ignorant man, lest he speak ill of thy family.

6Despise not a man that turneth away from sin, nor reproach him therewith: remember that we are all worthy of reproof.

7Despise not a man in his old age; for we also shall become old.

8Rejoice not at the death of thy enemy; knowing that we all die, and are not willing that others should rejoice at our death.

9Despise not the discourse of them that are ancient and wise, but acquaint thyself with their proverbs.

10For of them thou shalt learn wisdom, and instruction of understanding, and to serve great men without blame.

11Let not the discourse of the ancients escape thee, for they have learned of their fathers:

12For of them thou shalt learn understanding, and to give an answer in time of need.

13Kindle not the coals of sinners by rebuking them, lest thou be burnt with the flame of the fire of their sins.

14Stand not against the face of an injurious person, lest he sit as a spy to entrap thee in thy words.

15Lend not to a man that is mightier than thyself: and if thou lendest, count it as lost.

16Be not surety above thy power: and if thou be surety, think as if thou wert to pay it.

17Judge not against a judge: for he judgeth according to that which is just.

18Go not on the way with a bold man, lest he burden thee with his evils: for he goeth according to his own will, and thou shalt perish together with his folly.

19Quarrel not with a passionate man, and go not into the desert with a bold man: for blood is as nothing in his sight, and where there is no help he will overthrow thee.

20Advise not with fools, for they cannot love but such things as please them.

21Before a stranger do no matter of counsel: for thou knowest not what he will bring forth.

22Open not thy heart to every man: lest he repay thee with an evil turn, and speak reproachfully to thee.

Sirach 8

1Strive not with a mighty man, lest thou fall into his hands.

2Be not at variance with a rich man, lest he overweigh thee: for gold hath destroyed many, and perverted the hearts of kings.

3Strive not with a man that is full of tongue, and heap not wood upon his fire.

4Jest not with a rude man, lest thy ancestors be disgraced.

5Reproach not a man that turneth from sin, but remember that we are all worthy of punishment.

6Dishonour not a man in his old age: for even some of us wax old.

7Rejoice not over thy greatest enemy being dead, but remember that we die all.

8Despise not the discourse of the wise, but acquaint thyself with their proverbs: for of them thou shalt learn instruction, and how to serve great men with ease.

9Miss not the discourse of the elders: for they also learned of their fathers, and of them thou shalt learn understanding, and to give answer as need requireth.

10Kindle not the coals of a sinner, lest thou be burnt with the flame of his fire.

11Rise not up in anger at the presence of an injurious person, lest he lie in wait to entrap thee in thy words

12Lend not unto him that is mightier than thyself; for if thou lendest him, count it but lost.

13Be not surety above thy power: for if thou be surety, take care to pay it.

14Go not to law with a judge; for they will judge for him according to his honour.

15Travel not by the way with a bold fellow, lest he become grievous unto thee: for he will do according to his own will, and thou shalt perish with him through his folly.

16Strive not with an angry man, and go not with him into a solitary place: for blood is as nothing in his sight, and where there is no help, he will overthrow thee.

17Consult not with a fool; for he cannot keep counsel.

18Do no secret thing before a stranger; for thou knowest not what he will bring forth.

19Open not thine heart to every man, lest he requite thee with a shrewd turn.

Sirach 8

1Strive not with a powerful man, lest thou fall into his hands.

2Contend not with a rich man, lest he bring an action against thee.

3For gold and silver hath destroyed many, and hath reached even to the heart of kings, and perverted them.

4Strive not with a man that is full of tongue, and heap not wood upon his fire.

5Communicate not with an ignorant man, lest he speak ill of thy family.

6Despise not a man that turneth away from sin, nor reproach him therewith: remember that we are all worthy of reproof.

7Despise not a man in his old age; for we also shall become old.

8Rejoice not at the death of thy enemy; knowing that we all die, and are not willing that others should rejoice at our death.

9Despise not the discourse of them that are ancient and wise, but acquaint thyself with their proverbs.

10For of them thou shalt learn wisdom, and instruction of understanding, and to serve great men without blame.

11Let not the discourse of the ancients escape thee, for they have learned of their fathers:

12For of them thou shalt learn understanding, and to give an answer in time of need.

13Kindle not the coals of sinners by rebuking them, lest thou be burnt with the flame of the fire of their sins.

14Stand not against the face of an injurious person, lest he sit as a spy to entrap thee in thy words.

15Lend not to a man that is mightier than thyself: and if thou lendest, count it as lost.

16Be not surety above thy power: and if thou be surety, think as if thou wert to pay it.

17Judge not against a judge: for he judgeth according to that which is just.

18Go not on the way with a bold man, lest he burden thee with his evils: for he goeth according to his own will, and thou shalt perish together with his folly.

19Quarrel not with a passionate man, and go not into the desert with a bold man: for blood is as nothing in his sight, and where there is no help he will overthrow thee.

20Advise not with fools, for they cannot love but such things as please them.

21Before a stranger do no matter of counsel: for thou knowest not what he will bring forth.

22Open not thy heart to every man: lest he repay thee with an evil turn, and speak reproachfully to thee.

Sirach 8:1
DRC

Strive not with a powerful man, lest thou fall into his hands.

KJVA

Strive not with a mighty man, lest thou fall into his hands.

2
DRC

Contend not with a rich man, lest he bring an action against thee.

KJVA

Be not at variance with a rich man, lest he overweigh thee: for gold hath destroyed many, and perverted the hearts of kings.

3
DRC

For gold and silver hath destroyed many, and hath reached even to the heart of kings, and perverted them.

KJVA

Strive not with a man that is full of tongue, and heap not wood upon his fire.

4
DRC

Strive not with a man that is full of tongue, and heap not wood upon his fire.

KJVA

Jest not with a rude man, lest thy ancestors be disgraced.

5
DRC

Communicate not with an ignorant man, lest he speak ill of thy family.

KJVA

Reproach not a man that turneth from sin, but remember that we are all worthy of punishment.

6
DRC

Despise not a man that turneth away from sin, nor reproach him therewith: remember that we are all worthy of reproof.

KJVA

Dishonour not a man in his old age: for even some of us wax old.

7
DRC

Despise not a man in his old age; for we also shall become old.

KJVA

Rejoice not over thy greatest enemy being dead, but remember that we die all.

8
DRC

Rejoice not at the death of thy enemy; knowing that we all die, and are not willing that others should rejoice at our death.

KJVA

Despise not the discourse of the wise, but acquaint thyself with their proverbs: for of them thou shalt learn instruction, and how to serve great men with ease.

9
DRC

Despise not the discourse of them that are ancient and wise, but acquaint thyself with their proverbs.

KJVA

Miss not the discourse of the elders: for they also learned of their fathers, and of them thou shalt learn understanding, and to give answer as need requireth.

10
DRC

For of them thou shalt learn wisdom, and instruction of understanding, and to serve great men without blame.

KJVA

Kindle not the coals of a sinner, lest thou be burnt with the flame of his fire.

11
DRC

Let not the discourse of the ancients escape thee, for they have learned of their fathers:

KJVA

Rise not up in anger at the presence of an injurious person, lest he lie in wait to entrap thee in thy words

12
DRC

For of them thou shalt learn understanding, and to give an answer in time of need.

KJVA

Lend not unto him that is mightier than thyself; for if thou lendest him, count it but lost.

13
DRC

Kindle not the coals of sinners by rebuking them, lest thou be burnt with the flame of the fire of their sins.

KJVA

Be not surety above thy power: for if thou be surety, take care to pay it.

14
DRC

Stand not against the face of an injurious person, lest he sit as a spy to entrap thee in thy words.

KJVA

Go not to law with a judge; for they will judge for him according to his honour.

15
DRC

Lend not to a man that is mightier than thyself: and if thou lendest, count it as lost.

KJVA

Travel not by the way with a bold fellow, lest he become grievous unto thee: for he will do according to his own will, and thou shalt perish with him through his folly.

16
DRC

Be not surety above thy power: and if thou be surety, think as if thou wert to pay it.

KJVA

Strive not with an angry man, and go not with him into a solitary place: for blood is as nothing in his sight, and where there is no help, he will overthrow thee.

17
DRC

Judge not against a judge: for he judgeth according to that which is just.

KJVA

Consult not with a fool; for he cannot keep counsel.

18
DRC

Go not on the way with a bold man, lest he burden thee with his evils: for he goeth according to his own will, and thou shalt perish together with his folly.

KJVA

Do no secret thing before a stranger; for thou knowest not what he will bring forth.

19
DRC

Quarrel not with a passionate man, and go not into the desert with a bold man: for blood is as nothing in his sight, and where there is no help he will overthrow thee.

KJVA

Open not thine heart to every man, lest he requite thee with a shrewd turn.

20
DRC

Advise not with fools, for they cannot love but such things as please them.

KJVA

21
DRC

Before a stranger do no matter of counsel: for thou knowest not what he will bring forth.

KJVA

22
DRC

Open not thy heart to every man: lest he repay thee with an evil turn, and speak reproachfully to thee.

KJVA

Understanding Douay-Rheims vs KJV with Apocrypha in Sirach 8

Douay-Rheims (DRC)

Traditional Catholic English translation from the Latin Vulgate. Includes deuterocanonical books used in Catholic tradition. Best for readers who want a classic, historically influential Catholic Bible.

KJV with Apocrypha (KJVA)

The complete King James Version (1611) including the 14 Apocrypha books interlaced between the Old and New Testaments. Essential for studying the text as it was originally published and for exploring deuterocanonical literature.

You are viewing a side-by-side comparison of Sirach 8 in the Douay-Rheims and KJV with Apocrypha. Comparing these two versions can help shed light on the nuances of the original text.

Key Comparison: Sirach 8:16

DRC

"Be not surety above thy power: and if thou be surety, think as if thou wert to pay it."

KJVA

"Strive not with an angry man, and go not with him into a solitary place: for blood is as nothing in his sight, and where there is no help, he will overthrow thee."

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