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Judith 8

1Now it came to pass, when Judith a widow had heard these words, who was the daughter of Merari, the son of Idox, the son of Joseph, the son of Ozias, the son of Elai, the son of Jamnor, the son of Gedeon, the son of Raphaim, the son of Achitob, the son of Melchias, the son of Enan, the son of Nathanias, the son of Salathiel, the son of Simeon, the son of Ruben:

2And her husband was Manasses, who died in the time of the barley harvest:

3For he was standing over them that bound sheaves in the field; and the heat came upon his head, and he died in Bethulia his own city, and was buried there with his fathers.

4And Judith his relict was a widow now three years and six months.

5And she made herself a private chamber in the upper part of her house, in which she abode shut up with her maids.

6And she wore haircloth upon her loins, and fasted all the days of her life, except the sabbaths, and new moons, and the feasts of the house of Israel.

7And she was exceedingly beautiful, and her husband left her great riches, and very many servants, and large possessions of herds of oxen, and flocks of sheep.

8And she was greatly renowned among all, because she feared the Lord very much, neither was there any one that spoke an ill word of her.

9When therefore she had heard that Ozias had promised that he would deliver up the city after the fifth day, she sent to the ancients Chabri and Charmi.

10And they came to her, and she said to them: What is this word, by which Ozias hath consented to give up the city to the Assyrians, if within five days there come no aid to us?

11And who are you that tempt the Lord?

12This is not a word that may draw down mercy, but rather that may stir up wrath, and enkindle indignation.

13You have set a time for the mercy of the Lord, and you have appointed him a day, according to your pleasure.

14But forasmuch as the Lord is patient, let us be penitent for this same thing, and with many tears let us beg his pardon:

15For God will not threaten like man, nor be inflamed to anger like the son of man.

16And therefore let us humble our souls before him, and continuing in an humble spirit, in his service:

17Let us ask the Lord with tears, that according to his will so he would shew his mercy to us: that as our heart is troubled by their pride, so also we may glorify in our humility.

18For we have not followed the sins of our fathers, who forsook their God, and worshipped strange gods.

19For which crime they were given up to their enemies, to the sword, and to pillage, and to confusion: but we know no other God but him.

20Let us humbly wait for his consolation, and the Lord our God will require our blood of the afflictions of our enemies, and he will humble all the nations that shall rise up against us, and bring them to disgrace.

21And now, brethren, as you are the ancients among the people of God, and their very soul resteth upon you: comfort their hearts by your speech, that they may be mindful how our fathers were tempted that they might be proved, whether they worshipped their God truly.

22They must remember how our father Abraham was tempted, and being proved by many tribulations, was made the friend of God.

23So Isaac, so Jacob, so Moses, and all that have pleased God, passed through many tribulations, remaining faithful.

24But they that did not receive the trials with the fear of the Lord, but uttered their impatience and the reproach of their murmuring against the Lord,

25Were destroyed by the destroyer, and perished by serpents.

26As for us therefore let us not revenge ourselves for these things which we suffer.

27But esteeming these very punishments to be less than our sins deserve, let us believe that these scourges of the Lord, with which like servants we are chastised, have happened for our amendment, and not for our destruction.

28And Ozias and the ancients said to her: All things which thou hast spoken are true, and there is nothing to be reprehended in thy words.

29Now therefore pray for us, for thou art a holy woman, and one fearing God.

30And Judith said to them: As you know that what I have been able to say is of God:

31So that which I intend to do prove ye if it be of God, and pray that God may strengthen my design.

32You shall stand at the gate this night, and I will go out with my maidservant: and pray ye, that as you have said, in five days the Lord may look down upon his people Israel.

33But I desire that you search not into what I am doing, and till I bring you word let nothing else be done but to pray for me to the Lord our God.

34And Ozias the prince of Juda said to her: Go in peace, and the Lord be with thee to take revenge of our enemies. So returning they departed.

Judith 8

1Now at that time Judith heard thereof, which was the daughter of Merari, the son of Ox, the son of Joseph, the son of Ozel, the son of Elcia, the son of Ananias, the son of Gedeon, the son of Raphaim, the son of Acitho, the son of Eliu, the son of Eliab, the son of Nathanael, the son of Samael, the son of Salasadal, the son of Israel.

2And Manasses was her husband, of her tribe and kindred, who died in the barley harvest.

3For as he stood overseeing them that bound sheaves in the field, the heat came upon his head, and he fell on his bed, and died in the city of Bethulia: and they buried him with his fathers in the field between Dothaim and Balamo.

4So Judith was a widow in her house three years and four months.

5And she made her a tent upon the top of her house, and put on sackcloth upon her loins and ware her widow’s apparel.

6And she fasted all the days of her widowhood, save the eves of the sabbaths, and the sabbaths, and the eves of the new moons, and the new moons and the feasts and solemn days of the house of Israel.

7She was also of a goodly countenance, and very beautiful to behold: and her husband Manasses had left her gold, and silver, and menservants and maidservants, and cattle, and lands; and she remained upon them.

8And there was none that gave her an ill word; as she feared God greatly.

9Now when she heard the evil words of the people against the governor, that they fainted for lack of water; for Judith had heard all the words that Ozias had spoken unto them, and that he had sworn to deliver the city unto the Assyrians after five days;

10Then she sent her waitingwoman, that had the government of all things that she had, to call Ozias and Chabris and Charmis, the ancients of the city.

11And they came unto her, and she said unto them, Hear me now, O ye governors of the inhabitants of Bethulia: for your words that ye have spoken before the people this day are not right, touching this oath which ye made and pronounced between God and you, and have promised to deliver the city to our enemies, unless within these days the Lord turn to help you.

12And now who are ye that have tempted God this day, and stand instead of God among the children of men?

13And now try the Lord Almighty, but ye shall never know any thing.

14For ye cannot find the depth of the heart of man, neither can ye perceive the things that he thinketh: then how can ye search out God, that hath made all these things, and know his mind, or comprehend his purpose? Nay, my brethren, provoke not the Lord our God to anger.

15For if he will not help us within these five days, he hath power to defend us when he will, even every day, or to destroy us before our enemies.

16Do not bind the counsels of the Lord our God: for God is not as man, that he may be threatened; neither is he as the son of man, that he should be wavering.

17Therefore let us wait for salvation of him, and call upon him to help us, and he will hear our voice, if it please him.

18For there arose none in our age, neither is there any now in these days neither tribe, nor family, nor people, nor city among us, which worship gods made with hands, as hath been aforetime.

19For the which cause our fathers were given to the sword, and for a spoil, and had a great fall before our enemies.

20But we know none other god, therefore we trust that he will not despise us, nor any of our nation.

21For if we be taken so, all Judea shall lie waste, and our sanctuary shall be spoiled; and he will require the profanation thereof at our mouth.

22And the slaughter of our brethren, and the captivity of the country, and the desolation of our inheritance, will he turn upon our heads among the Gentiles, wheresoever we shall be in bondage; and we shall be an offence and a reproach to all them that possess us.

23For our servitude shall not be directed to favour: but the Lord our God shall turn it to dishonour.

24Now therefore, O brethren, let us shew an example to our brethren, because their hearts depend upon us, and the sanctuary, and the house, and the altar, rest upon us.

25Moreover let us give thanks to the Lord our God, which trieth us, even as he did our fathers.

26Remember what things he did to Abraham, and how he tried Isaac, and what happened to Jacob in Mesopotamia of Syria, when he kept the sheep of Laban his mother’s brother.

27For he hath not tried us in the fire, as he did them, for the examination of their hearts, neither hath he taken vengeance on us: but the Lord doth scourge them that come near unto him, to admonish them.

28Then said Ozias to her, All that thou hast spoken hast thou spoken with a good heart, and there is none that may gainsay thy words.

29For this is not the first day wherein thy wisdom is manifested; but from the beginning of thy days all the people have known thy understanding, because the disposition of thine heart is good.

30But the people were very thirsty, and compelled us to do unto them as we have spoken, and to bring an oath upon ourselves, which we will not break.

31Therefore now pray thou for us, because thou art a godly woman, and the Lord will send us rain to fill our cisterns, and we shall faint no more.

32Then said Judith unto them, Hear me, and I will do a thing, which shall go throughout all generations to the children of our nation.

33Ye shall stand this night in the gate, and I will go forth with my waitingwoman: and within the days that ye have promised to deliver the city to our enemies the Lord will visit Israel by mine hand.

34But enquire not ye of mine act: for I will not declare it unto you, till the things be finished that I do.

35Then said Ozias and the princes unto her, Go in peace, and the Lord God be before thee, to take vengeance on our enemies.

36So they returned from the tent, and went to their wards.

Judith 8

1Now it came to pass, when Judith a widow had heard these words, who was the daughter of Merari, the son of Idox, the son of Joseph, the son of Ozias, the son of Elai, the son of Jamnor, the son of Gedeon, the son of Raphaim, the son of Achitob, the son of Melchias, the son of Enan, the son of Nathanias, the son of Salathiel, the son of Simeon, the son of Ruben:

2And her husband was Manasses, who died in the time of the barley harvest:

3For he was standing over them that bound sheaves in the field; and the heat came upon his head, and he died in Bethulia his own city, and was buried there with his fathers.

4And Judith his relict was a widow now three years and six months.

5And she made herself a private chamber in the upper part of her house, in which she abode shut up with her maids.

6And she wore haircloth upon her loins, and fasted all the days of her life, except the sabbaths, and new moons, and the feasts of the house of Israel.

7And she was exceedingly beautiful, and her husband left her great riches, and very many servants, and large possessions of herds of oxen, and flocks of sheep.

8And she was greatly renowned among all, because she feared the Lord very much, neither was there any one that spoke an ill word of her.

9When therefore she had heard that Ozias had promised that he would deliver up the city after the fifth day, she sent to the ancients Chabri and Charmi.

10And they came to her, and she said to them: What is this word, by which Ozias hath consented to give up the city to the Assyrians, if within five days there come no aid to us?

11And who are you that tempt the Lord?

12This is not a word that may draw down mercy, but rather that may stir up wrath, and enkindle indignation.

13You have set a time for the mercy of the Lord, and you have appointed him a day, according to your pleasure.

14But forasmuch as the Lord is patient, let us be penitent for this same thing, and with many tears let us beg his pardon:

15For God will not threaten like man, nor be inflamed to anger like the son of man.

16And therefore let us humble our souls before him, and continuing in an humble spirit, in his service:

17Let us ask the Lord with tears, that according to his will so he would shew his mercy to us: that as our heart is troubled by their pride, so also we may glorify in our humility.

18For we have not followed the sins of our fathers, who forsook their God, and worshipped strange gods.

19For which crime they were given up to their enemies, to the sword, and to pillage, and to confusion: but we know no other God but him.

20Let us humbly wait for his consolation, and the Lord our God will require our blood of the afflictions of our enemies, and he will humble all the nations that shall rise up against us, and bring them to disgrace.

21And now, brethren, as you are the ancients among the people of God, and their very soul resteth upon you: comfort their hearts by your speech, that they may be mindful how our fathers were tempted that they might be proved, whether they worshipped their God truly.

22They must remember how our father Abraham was tempted, and being proved by many tribulations, was made the friend of God.

23So Isaac, so Jacob, so Moses, and all that have pleased God, passed through many tribulations, remaining faithful.

24But they that did not receive the trials with the fear of the Lord, but uttered their impatience and the reproach of their murmuring against the Lord,

25Were destroyed by the destroyer, and perished by serpents.

26As for us therefore let us not revenge ourselves for these things which we suffer.

27But esteeming these very punishments to be less than our sins deserve, let us believe that these scourges of the Lord, with which like servants we are chastised, have happened for our amendment, and not for our destruction.

28And Ozias and the ancients said to her: All things which thou hast spoken are true, and there is nothing to be reprehended in thy words.

29Now therefore pray for us, for thou art a holy woman, and one fearing God.

30And Judith said to them: As you know that what I have been able to say is of God:

31So that which I intend to do prove ye if it be of God, and pray that God may strengthen my design.

32You shall stand at the gate this night, and I will go out with my maidservant: and pray ye, that as you have said, in five days the Lord may look down upon his people Israel.

33But I desire that you search not into what I am doing, and till I bring you word let nothing else be done but to pray for me to the Lord our God.

34And Ozias the prince of Juda said to her: Go in peace, and the Lord be with thee to take revenge of our enemies. So returning they departed.

Judith 8:1
DRC

Now it came to pass, when Judith a widow had heard these words, who was the daughter of Merari, the son of Idox, the son of Joseph, the son of Ozias, the son of Elai, the son of Jamnor, the son of Gedeon, the son of Raphaim, the son of Achitob, the son of Melchias, the son of Enan, the son of Nathanias, the son of Salathiel, the son of Simeon, the son of Ruben:

KJVA

Now at that time Judith heard thereof, which was the daughter of Merari, the son of Ox, the son of Joseph, the son of Ozel, the son of Elcia, the son of Ananias, the son of Gedeon, the son of Raphaim, the son of Acitho, the son of Eliu, the son of Eliab, the son of Nathanael, the son of Samael, the son of Salasadal, the son of Israel.

2
DRC

And her husband was Manasses, who died in the time of the barley harvest:

KJVA

And Manasses was her husband, of her tribe and kindred, who died in the barley harvest.

3
DRC

For he was standing over them that bound sheaves in the field; and the heat came upon his head, and he died in Bethulia his own city, and was buried there with his fathers.

KJVA

For as he stood overseeing them that bound sheaves in the field, the heat came upon his head, and he fell on his bed, and died in the city of Bethulia: and they buried him with his fathers in the field between Dothaim and Balamo.

4
DRC

And Judith his relict was a widow now three years and six months.

KJVA

So Judith was a widow in her house three years and four months.

5
DRC

And she made herself a private chamber in the upper part of her house, in which she abode shut up with her maids.

KJVA

And she made her a tent upon the top of her house, and put on sackcloth upon her loins and ware her widow’s apparel.

6
DRC

And she wore haircloth upon her loins, and fasted all the days of her life, except the sabbaths, and new moons, and the feasts of the house of Israel.

KJVA

And she fasted all the days of her widowhood, save the eves of the sabbaths, and the sabbaths, and the eves of the new moons, and the new moons and the feasts and solemn days of the house of Israel.

7
DRC

And she was exceedingly beautiful, and her husband left her great riches, and very many servants, and large possessions of herds of oxen, and flocks of sheep.

KJVA

She was also of a goodly countenance, and very beautiful to behold: and her husband Manasses had left her gold, and silver, and menservants and maidservants, and cattle, and lands; and she remained upon them.

8
DRC

And she was greatly renowned among all, because she feared the Lord very much, neither was there any one that spoke an ill word of her.

KJVA

And there was none that gave her an ill word; as she feared God greatly.

9
DRC

When therefore she had heard that Ozias had promised that he would deliver up the city after the fifth day, she sent to the ancients Chabri and Charmi.

KJVA

Now when she heard the evil words of the people against the governor, that they fainted for lack of water; for Judith had heard all the words that Ozias had spoken unto them, and that he had sworn to deliver the city unto the Assyrians after five days;

10
DRC

And they came to her, and she said to them: What is this word, by which Ozias hath consented to give up the city to the Assyrians, if within five days there come no aid to us?

KJVA

Then she sent her waitingwoman, that had the government of all things that she had, to call Ozias and Chabris and Charmis, the ancients of the city.

11
DRC

And who are you that tempt the Lord?

KJVA

And they came unto her, and she said unto them, Hear me now, O ye governors of the inhabitants of Bethulia: for your words that ye have spoken before the people this day are not right, touching this oath which ye made and pronounced between God and you, and have promised to deliver the city to our enemies, unless within these days the Lord turn to help you.

12
DRC

This is not a word that may draw down mercy, but rather that may stir up wrath, and enkindle indignation.

KJVA

And now who are ye that have tempted God this day, and stand instead of God among the children of men?

13
DRC

You have set a time for the mercy of the Lord, and you have appointed him a day, according to your pleasure.

KJVA

And now try the Lord Almighty, but ye shall never know any thing.

14
DRC

But forasmuch as the Lord is patient, let us be penitent for this same thing, and with many tears let us beg his pardon:

KJVA

For ye cannot find the depth of the heart of man, neither can ye perceive the things that he thinketh: then how can ye search out God, that hath made all these things, and know his mind, or comprehend his purpose? Nay, my brethren, provoke not the Lord our God to anger.

15
DRC

For God will not threaten like man, nor be inflamed to anger like the son of man.

KJVA

For if he will not help us within these five days, he hath power to defend us when he will, even every day, or to destroy us before our enemies.

16
DRC

And therefore let us humble our souls before him, and continuing in an humble spirit, in his service:

KJVA

Do not bind the counsels of the Lord our God: for God is not as man, that he may be threatened; neither is he as the son of man, that he should be wavering.

17
DRC

Let us ask the Lord with tears, that according to his will so he would shew his mercy to us: that as our heart is troubled by their pride, so also we may glorify in our humility.

KJVA

Therefore let us wait for salvation of him, and call upon him to help us, and he will hear our voice, if it please him.

18
DRC

For we have not followed the sins of our fathers, who forsook their God, and worshipped strange gods.

KJVA

For there arose none in our age, neither is there any now in these days neither tribe, nor family, nor people, nor city among us, which worship gods made with hands, as hath been aforetime.

19
DRC

For which crime they were given up to their enemies, to the sword, and to pillage, and to confusion: but we know no other God but him.

KJVA

For the which cause our fathers were given to the sword, and for a spoil, and had a great fall before our enemies.

20
DRC

Let us humbly wait for his consolation, and the Lord our God will require our blood of the afflictions of our enemies, and he will humble all the nations that shall rise up against us, and bring them to disgrace.

KJVA

But we know none other god, therefore we trust that he will not despise us, nor any of our nation.

21
DRC

And now, brethren, as you are the ancients among the people of God, and their very soul resteth upon you: comfort their hearts by your speech, that they may be mindful how our fathers were tempted that they might be proved, whether they worshipped their God truly.

KJVA

For if we be taken so, all Judea shall lie waste, and our sanctuary shall be spoiled; and he will require the profanation thereof at our mouth.

22
DRC

They must remember how our father Abraham was tempted, and being proved by many tribulations, was made the friend of God.

KJVA

And the slaughter of our brethren, and the captivity of the country, and the desolation of our inheritance, will he turn upon our heads among the Gentiles, wheresoever we shall be in bondage; and we shall be an offence and a reproach to all them that possess us.

23
DRC

So Isaac, so Jacob, so Moses, and all that have pleased God, passed through many tribulations, remaining faithful.

KJVA

For our servitude shall not be directed to favour: but the Lord our God shall turn it to dishonour.

24
DRC

But they that did not receive the trials with the fear of the Lord, but uttered their impatience and the reproach of their murmuring against the Lord,

KJVA

Now therefore, O brethren, let us shew an example to our brethren, because their hearts depend upon us, and the sanctuary, and the house, and the altar, rest upon us.

25
DRC

Were destroyed by the destroyer, and perished by serpents.

KJVA

Moreover let us give thanks to the Lord our God, which trieth us, even as he did our fathers.

26
DRC

As for us therefore let us not revenge ourselves for these things which we suffer.

KJVA

Remember what things he did to Abraham, and how he tried Isaac, and what happened to Jacob in Mesopotamia of Syria, when he kept the sheep of Laban his mother’s brother.

27
DRC

But esteeming these very punishments to be less than our sins deserve, let us believe that these scourges of the Lord, with which like servants we are chastised, have happened for our amendment, and not for our destruction.

KJVA

For he hath not tried us in the fire, as he did them, for the examination of their hearts, neither hath he taken vengeance on us: but the Lord doth scourge them that come near unto him, to admonish them.

28
DRC

And Ozias and the ancients said to her: All things which thou hast spoken are true, and there is nothing to be reprehended in thy words.

KJVA

Then said Ozias to her, All that thou hast spoken hast thou spoken with a good heart, and there is none that may gainsay thy words.

29
DRC

Now therefore pray for us, for thou art a holy woman, and one fearing God.

KJVA

For this is not the first day wherein thy wisdom is manifested; but from the beginning of thy days all the people have known thy understanding, because the disposition of thine heart is good.

30
DRC

And Judith said to them: As you know that what I have been able to say is of God:

KJVA

But the people were very thirsty, and compelled us to do unto them as we have spoken, and to bring an oath upon ourselves, which we will not break.

31
DRC

So that which I intend to do prove ye if it be of God, and pray that God may strengthen my design.

KJVA

Therefore now pray thou for us, because thou art a godly woman, and the Lord will send us rain to fill our cisterns, and we shall faint no more.

32
DRC

You shall stand at the gate this night, and I will go out with my maidservant: and pray ye, that as you have said, in five days the Lord may look down upon his people Israel.

KJVA

Then said Judith unto them, Hear me, and I will do a thing, which shall go throughout all generations to the children of our nation.

33
DRC

But I desire that you search not into what I am doing, and till I bring you word let nothing else be done but to pray for me to the Lord our God.

KJVA

Ye shall stand this night in the gate, and I will go forth with my waitingwoman: and within the days that ye have promised to deliver the city to our enemies the Lord will visit Israel by mine hand.

34
DRC

And Ozias the prince of Juda said to her: Go in peace, and the Lord be with thee to take revenge of our enemies. So returning they departed.

KJVA

But enquire not ye of mine act: for I will not declare it unto you, till the things be finished that I do.

Understanding Douay-Rheims vs KJV with Apocrypha in Judith 8

Douay-Rheims (DRC)

Traditional Catholic English translation from the Latin Vulgate. Includes deuterocanonical books used in Catholic tradition. Best for readers who want a classic, historically influential Catholic Bible.

KJV with Apocrypha (KJVA)

The complete King James Version (1611) including the 14 Apocrypha books interlaced between the Old and New Testaments. Essential for studying the text as it was originally published and for exploring deuterocanonical literature.

You are viewing a side-by-side comparison of Judith 8 in the Douay-Rheims and KJV with Apocrypha. Comparing these two versions can help shed light on the nuances of the original text.

Key Comparison: Judith 8:16

DRC

"And therefore let us humble our souls before him, and continuing in an humble spirit, in his service:"

KJVA

"Do not bind the counsels of the Lord our God: for God is not as man, that he may be threatened; neither is he as the son of man, that he should be wavering."

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