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Sirach 8 Comparison: Catholic Public Domain vs Douay-Rheims

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Sirach 8

1You should not quarrel with a powerful man, lest perhaps you may fall into his hands.

2You should not contend with a wealthy man, lest perhaps he may bring an action against you.

3For gold and silver have destroyed many, and have reached and corrupted even the hearts of kings.

4You should not quarrel with a man who is full of words, for you should not cast wood upon his fire.

5You should not confide in an ignorant man, lest he speak evil about your family.

6You should not despise a man who turns himself away from sin, nor reproach him with it. Remember that we are all subject to correction.

7You should not spurn a man in his old age. For we are all subject to growing old.

8Do not be willing to rejoice at the death of your enemy, knowing that we all die, and that we do not want others to rejoice over us.

9You should not despise the discourse of those who are old and wise; instead, ponder their proverbs.

10For from them, you will learn wisdom and intelligent doctrine, so as to serve great men without blame.

11Do not allow the discourse of your elders to pass you by. For they have learned from their fathers.

12And from them, you will learn understanding, and you will learn what response to give in a time of necessity.

13You should not kindle the coals of sinners by arguing with them. For you might be scorched by the flame from the fire of their sins.

14You should not stand against the face of a contemptuous person, otherwise he may sit down as if waiting in ambush against your words.

15You should not lend to a man who is stronger than you. But if you do lend, consider it lost.

16You should not promise beyond your ability. But if you do promise, consider how to fulfill it.

17You should not judge against a judge. For he judges according to what is just.

18You should not go forth on the way with an audacious man, lest perhaps he may burden you with his evils. For he goes forth according to his own will, and you will perish with him in his folly.

19You should not start a conflict with an angry man, and you should not go into the desert with an audacious man. For shedding blood is nothing to him, and in a place where there is no help for you, he will overthrow you.

20You should not hold counsel with the foolish. For they are not able to love anything except what pleases them.

21You should not take counsel in the sight of an outsider. For you do not know what he will do next.

22You should not reveal your heart to every man, lest perhaps he may offer a false kindness to you, and then speak reproachfully about you.

Sirach 8

1Strive not with a powerful man, lest thou fall into his hands.

2Contend not with a rich man, lest he bring an action against thee.

3For gold and silver hath destroyed many, and hath reached even to the heart of kings, and perverted them.

4Strive not with a man that is full of tongue, and heap not wood upon his fire.

5Communicate not with an ignorant man, lest he speak ill of thy family.

6Despise not a man that turneth away from sin, nor reproach him therewith: remember that we are all worthy of reproof.

7Despise not a man in his old age; for we also shall become old.

8Rejoice not at the death of thy enemy; knowing that we all die, and are not willing that others should rejoice at our death.

9Despise not the discourse of them that are ancient and wise, but acquaint thyself with their proverbs.

10For of them thou shalt learn wisdom, and instruction of understanding, and to serve great men without blame.

11Let not the discourse of the ancients escape thee, for they have learned of their fathers:

12For of them thou shalt learn understanding, and to give an answer in time of need.

13Kindle not the coals of sinners by rebuking them, lest thou be burnt with the flame of the fire of their sins.

14Stand not against the face of an injurious person, lest he sit as a spy to entrap thee in thy words.

15Lend not to a man that is mightier than thyself: and if thou lendest, count it as lost.

16Be not surety above thy power: and if thou be surety, think as if thou wert to pay it.

17Judge not against a judge: for he judgeth according to that which is just.

18Go not on the way with a bold man, lest he burden thee with his evils: for he goeth according to his own will, and thou shalt perish together with his folly.

19Quarrel not with a passionate man, and go not into the desert with a bold man: for blood is as nothing in his sight, and where there is no help he will overthrow thee.

20Advise not with fools, for they cannot love but such things as please them.

21Before a stranger do no matter of counsel: for thou knowest not what he will bring forth.

22Open not thy heart to every man: lest he repay thee with an evil turn, and speak reproachfully to thee.

Sirach 8

1You should not quarrel with a powerful man, lest perhaps you may fall into his hands.

2You should not contend with a wealthy man, lest perhaps he may bring an action against you.

3For gold and silver have destroyed many, and have reached and corrupted even the hearts of kings.

4You should not quarrel with a man who is full of words, for you should not cast wood upon his fire.

5You should not confide in an ignorant man, lest he speak evil about your family.

6You should not despise a man who turns himself away from sin, nor reproach him with it. Remember that we are all subject to correction.

7You should not spurn a man in his old age. For we are all subject to growing old.

8Do not be willing to rejoice at the death of your enemy, knowing that we all die, and that we do not want others to rejoice over us.

9You should not despise the discourse of those who are old and wise; instead, ponder their proverbs.

10For from them, you will learn wisdom and intelligent doctrine, so as to serve great men without blame.

11Do not allow the discourse of your elders to pass you by. For they have learned from their fathers.

12And from them, you will learn understanding, and you will learn what response to give in a time of necessity.

13You should not kindle the coals of sinners by arguing with them. For you might be scorched by the flame from the fire of their sins.

14You should not stand against the face of a contemptuous person, otherwise he may sit down as if waiting in ambush against your words.

15You should not lend to a man who is stronger than you. But if you do lend, consider it lost.

16You should not promise beyond your ability. But if you do promise, consider how to fulfill it.

17You should not judge against a judge. For he judges according to what is just.

18You should not go forth on the way with an audacious man, lest perhaps he may burden you with his evils. For he goes forth according to his own will, and you will perish with him in his folly.

19You should not start a conflict with an angry man, and you should not go into the desert with an audacious man. For shedding blood is nothing to him, and in a place where there is no help for you, he will overthrow you.

20You should not hold counsel with the foolish. For they are not able to love anything except what pleases them.

21You should not take counsel in the sight of an outsider. For you do not know what he will do next.

22You should not reveal your heart to every man, lest perhaps he may offer a false kindness to you, and then speak reproachfully about you.

Sirach 8:1
CPDV

You should not quarrel with a powerful man, lest perhaps you may fall into his hands.

DRC

Strive not with a powerful man, lest thou fall into his hands.

2
CPDV

You should not contend with a wealthy man, lest perhaps he may bring an action against you.

DRC

Contend not with a rich man, lest he bring an action against thee.

3
CPDV

For gold and silver have destroyed many, and have reached and corrupted even the hearts of kings.

DRC

For gold and silver hath destroyed many, and hath reached even to the heart of kings, and perverted them.

4
CPDV

You should not quarrel with a man who is full of words, for you should not cast wood upon his fire.

DRC

Strive not with a man that is full of tongue, and heap not wood upon his fire.

5
CPDV

You should not confide in an ignorant man, lest he speak evil about your family.

DRC

Communicate not with an ignorant man, lest he speak ill of thy family.

6
CPDV

You should not despise a man who turns himself away from sin, nor reproach him with it. Remember that we are all subject to correction.

DRC

Despise not a man that turneth away from sin, nor reproach him therewith: remember that we are all worthy of reproof.

7
CPDV

You should not spurn a man in his old age. For we are all subject to growing old.

DRC

Despise not a man in his old age; for we also shall become old.

8
CPDV

Do not be willing to rejoice at the death of your enemy, knowing that we all die, and that we do not want others to rejoice over us.

DRC

Rejoice not at the death of thy enemy; knowing that we all die, and are not willing that others should rejoice at our death.

9
CPDV

You should not despise the discourse of those who are old and wise; instead, ponder their proverbs.

DRC

Despise not the discourse of them that are ancient and wise, but acquaint thyself with their proverbs.

10
CPDV

For from them, you will learn wisdom and intelligent doctrine, so as to serve great men without blame.

DRC

For of them thou shalt learn wisdom, and instruction of understanding, and to serve great men without blame.

11
CPDV

Do not allow the discourse of your elders to pass you by. For they have learned from their fathers.

DRC

Let not the discourse of the ancients escape thee, for they have learned of their fathers:

12
CPDV

And from them, you will learn understanding, and you will learn what response to give in a time of necessity.

DRC

For of them thou shalt learn understanding, and to give an answer in time of need.

13
CPDV

You should not kindle the coals of sinners by arguing with them. For you might be scorched by the flame from the fire of their sins.

DRC

Kindle not the coals of sinners by rebuking them, lest thou be burnt with the flame of the fire of their sins.

14
CPDV

You should not stand against the face of a contemptuous person, otherwise he may sit down as if waiting in ambush against your words.

DRC

Stand not against the face of an injurious person, lest he sit as a spy to entrap thee in thy words.

15
CPDV

You should not lend to a man who is stronger than you. But if you do lend, consider it lost.

DRC

Lend not to a man that is mightier than thyself: and if thou lendest, count it as lost.

16
CPDV

You should not promise beyond your ability. But if you do promise, consider how to fulfill it.

DRC

Be not surety above thy power: and if thou be surety, think as if thou wert to pay it.

17
CPDV

You should not judge against a judge. For he judges according to what is just.

DRC

Judge not against a judge: for he judgeth according to that which is just.

18
CPDV

You should not go forth on the way with an audacious man, lest perhaps he may burden you with his evils. For he goes forth according to his own will, and you will perish with him in his folly.

DRC

Go not on the way with a bold man, lest he burden thee with his evils: for he goeth according to his own will, and thou shalt perish together with his folly.

19
CPDV

You should not start a conflict with an angry man, and you should not go into the desert with an audacious man. For shedding blood is nothing to him, and in a place where there is no help for you, he will overthrow you.

DRC

Quarrel not with a passionate man, and go not into the desert with a bold man: for blood is as nothing in his sight, and where there is no help he will overthrow thee.

20
CPDV

You should not hold counsel with the foolish. For they are not able to love anything except what pleases them.

DRC

Advise not with fools, for they cannot love but such things as please them.

21
CPDV

You should not take counsel in the sight of an outsider. For you do not know what he will do next.

DRC

Before a stranger do no matter of counsel: for thou knowest not what he will bring forth.

22
CPDV

You should not reveal your heart to every man, lest perhaps he may offer a false kindness to you, and then speak reproachfully about you.

DRC

Open not thy heart to every man: lest he repay thee with an evil turn, and speak reproachfully to thee.

Understanding Catholic Public Domain vs Douay-Rheims in Sirach 8

Catholic Public Domain (CPDV)

Modern Catholic translation in the public domain with deuterocanonical books. Clear, contemporary English while preserving a formal tone. A strong option for Catholic reading plans and study.

Douay-Rheims (DRC)

Traditional Catholic English translation from the Latin Vulgate. Includes deuterocanonical books used in Catholic tradition. Best for readers who want a classic, historically influential Catholic Bible.

You are viewing a side-by-side comparison of Sirach 8 in the Catholic Public Domain and Douay-Rheims. Comparing these two versions can help shed light on the nuances of the original text.

Key Comparison: Sirach 8:16

CPDV

"You should not promise beyond your ability. But if you do promise, consider how to fulfill it."

DRC

"Be not surety above thy power: and if thou be surety, think as if thou wert to pay it."

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