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II Corinthians 12

1If it is necessary (though certainly not expedient) to glory, then I will next tell of visions and revelations from the Lord.

2I know a man in Christ, who, more than fourteen years ago (whether in the body, I do not know, or out of the body, I do not know: God knows), was enraptured to the third heaven.

3And I know a certain man (whether in the body, or out of the body, I do not know: God knows),

4who was enraptured into Paradise. And he heard words of mystery, which it is not permitted for man to speak.

5On behalf of someone like this, I will glory. But on behalf of myself, I will not glory about anything, except my infirmities.

6For even though I am willing to glory, I will not be foolish. But I will speak the truth. Yet I will do so sparingly, lest anyone may consider me to be anything more than what he sees in me, or anything more than what he hears from me.

7And lest the greatness of the revelations should extol me, there was given to me a prodding in my flesh: an angel of Satan, who struck me repeatedly.

8Because of this, three times I petitioned the Lord that it might be taken away from me.

9And he said to me: “My grace is sufficient for you. For virtue is perfected in weakness.” And so, willingly shall I glory in my weaknesses, so that the virtue of Christ may live within me.

10Because of this, I am pleased in my infirmity: in reproaches, in difficulties, in persecutions, in distresses, for the sake of Christ. For when I am weak, then I am powerful.

11I have become foolish; you have compelled me. For I ought to have been commended by you. For I have been nothing less than those who claim to be above the measure of Apostles, even though I am nothing.

12And the seal of my Apostleship has been set over you, with all patience, with signs and wonders and miracles.

13For what is there that you have had which is less than the other churches, except that I myself did not burden you? Forgive me this injury.

14Behold, this is the third time I have prepared to come to you, and yet I will not be a burden to you. For I am seeking not the things that are yours, but you yourselves. And neither should the children store up for the parents, but the parents for the children.

15And so, very willingly, I will spend and exhaust myself for the sake of your souls, loving you more, while being loved less.

16And so be it. I have not burdened you, but instead, being astute, I obtained you by guile.

17And yet, did I defraud you by means of any of those whom I sent to you?

18I asked for Titus, and I sent a brother with him. Did Titus defraud you? Did we not walk with the same spirit? Did we not walk in the same steps?

19Have you ever thought that we should explain ourselves to you? We speak in the sight of God, in Christ. But all things, most beloved, are for your edification.

20Yet I fear, lest perhaps, when I have arrived, I might not find you such as I would want, and I might be found by you, such as you would not want. For perhaps there may be among you: contention, envy, animosity, dissension, detraction, whispering, self-exaltation, and rebellion.

21If so, then, when I have arrived, God may again humble me among you. And so, I mourn for the many who sinned beforehand, and did not repent, over the lust and fornication and homosexuality, which they have committed.

II Corinthians 12

1If I must glory (it is not expedient indeed) but I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord.

2I know a man in Christ: above fourteen years ago (whether in the body, I know not, or out of the body, I know not: God knoweth), such a one caught up to the third heaven.

3And I know such a man (whether in the body, or out of the body, I know not: God knoweth):

4That he was caught up into paradise and heard secret words which it is not granted to man to utter.

5For such an one I will glory: but for myself I will glory nothing but in my infirmities.

6For though I should have a mind to glory, I shall not be foolish: for I will say the truth. But I forbear, lest any man should think of me above that which he seeth in me, or any thing he heareth from me.

7And lest the greatness of the revelations should exalt me, there was given me a sting of my flesh, an angel of Satan, to buffet me.

8For which thing, thrice I besought the Lord that it might depart from me.

9And he said to me: My grace is sufficient for thee: for power is made perfect in infirmity. Gladly therefore will I glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may dwell in me.

10For which cause I please myself in my infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ. For when I am weak, then am I powerful.

11I am become foolish. You have compelled me: for I ought to have been commended by you. For I have no way come short of them that are above measure apostles, although I be nothing.

12Yet the signs of my apostleship have been wrought on you, in all patience, in signs and wonders and mighty deeds.

13For what is there that you have had less than the other churches but that I myself was not burthensome to you? Pardon me this injury.

14Behold now the third time I am ready to come to you and I will not be burthensome unto you. For I seek not the things that are yours, but you. For neither ought the children to lay up for the parents, but the parents for the children.

15But I most gladly will spend and be spent myself for your souls: although loving you more, I be loved less.

16But be it so: I did not burthen you: but being crafty, I caught you by guile.

17Did I overreach you by any of them whom I sent to you?

18I desired Titus: and I sent with him a brother. Did Titus overreach you? Did we not walk with the same spirit? Did we not in the same steps?

19Of old, think you that we excuse ourselves to you? We speak before God in Christ: but all things, my dearly beloved, for your edification.

20For I fear lest perhaps, when I come, I shall not find you such as I would, and that I shall be found by you such as you would not. Lest perhaps contentions, envyings, animosities, dissensions, detractions, whisperings, swellings, seditions, be among you.

21Lest again, when I come, God humble me among you: and I mourn many of them that sinned before and have not done penance for the uncleanness and fornication and lasciviousness that they have committed.

II Corinthians 12

1If it is necessary (though certainly not expedient) to glory, then I will next tell of visions and revelations from the Lord.

2I know a man in Christ, who, more than fourteen years ago (whether in the body, I do not know, or out of the body, I do not know: God knows), was enraptured to the third heaven.

3And I know a certain man (whether in the body, or out of the body, I do not know: God knows),

4who was enraptured into Paradise. And he heard words of mystery, which it is not permitted for man to speak.

5On behalf of someone like this, I will glory. But on behalf of myself, I will not glory about anything, except my infirmities.

6For even though I am willing to glory, I will not be foolish. But I will speak the truth. Yet I will do so sparingly, lest anyone may consider me to be anything more than what he sees in me, or anything more than what he hears from me.

7And lest the greatness of the revelations should extol me, there was given to me a prodding in my flesh: an angel of Satan, who struck me repeatedly.

8Because of this, three times I petitioned the Lord that it might be taken away from me.

9And he said to me: “My grace is sufficient for you. For virtue is perfected in weakness.” And so, willingly shall I glory in my weaknesses, so that the virtue of Christ may live within me.

10Because of this, I am pleased in my infirmity: in reproaches, in difficulties, in persecutions, in distresses, for the sake of Christ. For when I am weak, then I am powerful.

11I have become foolish; you have compelled me. For I ought to have been commended by you. For I have been nothing less than those who claim to be above the measure of Apostles, even though I am nothing.

12And the seal of my Apostleship has been set over you, with all patience, with signs and wonders and miracles.

13For what is there that you have had which is less than the other churches, except that I myself did not burden you? Forgive me this injury.

14Behold, this is the third time I have prepared to come to you, and yet I will not be a burden to you. For I am seeking not the things that are yours, but you yourselves. And neither should the children store up for the parents, but the parents for the children.

15And so, very willingly, I will spend and exhaust myself for the sake of your souls, loving you more, while being loved less.

16And so be it. I have not burdened you, but instead, being astute, I obtained you by guile.

17And yet, did I defraud you by means of any of those whom I sent to you?

18I asked for Titus, and I sent a brother with him. Did Titus defraud you? Did we not walk with the same spirit? Did we not walk in the same steps?

19Have you ever thought that we should explain ourselves to you? We speak in the sight of God, in Christ. But all things, most beloved, are for your edification.

20Yet I fear, lest perhaps, when I have arrived, I might not find you such as I would want, and I might be found by you, such as you would not want. For perhaps there may be among you: contention, envy, animosity, dissension, detraction, whispering, self-exaltation, and rebellion.

21If so, then, when I have arrived, God may again humble me among you. And so, I mourn for the many who sinned beforehand, and did not repent, over the lust and fornication and homosexuality, which they have committed.

II Corinthians 12:1
CPDV

If it is necessary (though certainly not expedient) to glory, then I will next tell of visions and revelations from the Lord.

DRC

If I must glory (it is not expedient indeed) but I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord.

2
CPDV

I know a man in Christ, who, more than fourteen years ago (whether in the body, I do not know, or out of the body, I do not know: God knows), was enraptured to the third heaven.

DRC

I know a man in Christ: above fourteen years ago (whether in the body, I know not, or out of the body, I know not: God knoweth), such a one caught up to the third heaven.

3
CPDV

And I know a certain man (whether in the body, or out of the body, I do not know: God knows),

DRC

And I know such a man (whether in the body, or out of the body, I know not: God knoweth):

4
CPDV

who was enraptured into Paradise. And he heard words of mystery, which it is not permitted for man to speak.

DRC

That he was caught up into paradise and heard secret words which it is not granted to man to utter.

5
CPDV

On behalf of someone like this, I will glory. But on behalf of myself, I will not glory about anything, except my infirmities.

DRC

For such an one I will glory: but for myself I will glory nothing but in my infirmities.

6
CPDV

For even though I am willing to glory, I will not be foolish. But I will speak the truth. Yet I will do so sparingly, lest anyone may consider me to be anything more than what he sees in me, or anything more than what he hears from me.

DRC

For though I should have a mind to glory, I shall not be foolish: for I will say the truth. But I forbear, lest any man should think of me above that which he seeth in me, or any thing he heareth from me.

7
CPDV

And lest the greatness of the revelations should extol me, there was given to me a prodding in my flesh: an angel of Satan, who struck me repeatedly.

DRC

And lest the greatness of the revelations should exalt me, there was given me a sting of my flesh, an angel of Satan, to buffet me.

8
CPDV

Because of this, three times I petitioned the Lord that it might be taken away from me.

DRC

For which thing, thrice I besought the Lord that it might depart from me.

9
CPDV

And he said to me: “My grace is sufficient for you. For virtue is perfected in weakness.” And so, willingly shall I glory in my weaknesses, so that the virtue of Christ may live within me.

DRC

And he said to me: My grace is sufficient for thee: for power is made perfect in infirmity. Gladly therefore will I glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may dwell in me.

10
CPDV

Because of this, I am pleased in my infirmity: in reproaches, in difficulties, in persecutions, in distresses, for the sake of Christ. For when I am weak, then I am powerful.

DRC

For which cause I please myself in my infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ. For when I am weak, then am I powerful.

11
CPDV

I have become foolish; you have compelled me. For I ought to have been commended by you. For I have been nothing less than those who claim to be above the measure of Apostles, even though I am nothing.

DRC

I am become foolish. You have compelled me: for I ought to have been commended by you. For I have no way come short of them that are above measure apostles, although I be nothing.

12
CPDV

And the seal of my Apostleship has been set over you, with all patience, with signs and wonders and miracles.

DRC

Yet the signs of my apostleship have been wrought on you, in all patience, in signs and wonders and mighty deeds.

13
CPDV

For what is there that you have had which is less than the other churches, except that I myself did not burden you? Forgive me this injury.

DRC

For what is there that you have had less than the other churches but that I myself was not burthensome to you? Pardon me this injury.

14
CPDV

Behold, this is the third time I have prepared to come to you, and yet I will not be a burden to you. For I am seeking not the things that are yours, but you yourselves. And neither should the children store up for the parents, but the parents for the children.

DRC

Behold now the third time I am ready to come to you and I will not be burthensome unto you. For I seek not the things that are yours, but you. For neither ought the children to lay up for the parents, but the parents for the children.

15
CPDV

And so, very willingly, I will spend and exhaust myself for the sake of your souls, loving you more, while being loved less.

DRC

But I most gladly will spend and be spent myself for your souls: although loving you more, I be loved less.

16
CPDV

And so be it. I have not burdened you, but instead, being astute, I obtained you by guile.

DRC

But be it so: I did not burthen you: but being crafty, I caught you by guile.

17
CPDV

And yet, did I defraud you by means of any of those whom I sent to you?

DRC

Did I overreach you by any of them whom I sent to you?

18
CPDV

I asked for Titus, and I sent a brother with him. Did Titus defraud you? Did we not walk with the same spirit? Did we not walk in the same steps?

DRC

I desired Titus: and I sent with him a brother. Did Titus overreach you? Did we not walk with the same spirit? Did we not in the same steps?

19
CPDV

Have you ever thought that we should explain ourselves to you? We speak in the sight of God, in Christ. But all things, most beloved, are for your edification.

DRC

Of old, think you that we excuse ourselves to you? We speak before God in Christ: but all things, my dearly beloved, for your edification.

20
CPDV

Yet I fear, lest perhaps, when I have arrived, I might not find you such as I would want, and I might be found by you, such as you would not want. For perhaps there may be among you: contention, envy, animosity, dissension, detraction, whispering, self-exaltation, and rebellion.

DRC

For I fear lest perhaps, when I come, I shall not find you such as I would, and that I shall be found by you such as you would not. Lest perhaps contentions, envyings, animosities, dissensions, detractions, whisperings, swellings, seditions, be among you.

21
CPDV

If so, then, when I have arrived, God may again humble me among you. And so, I mourn for the many who sinned beforehand, and did not repent, over the lust and fornication and homosexuality, which they have committed.

DRC

Lest again, when I come, God humble me among you: and I mourn many of them that sinned before and have not done penance for the uncleanness and fornication and lasciviousness that they have committed.

Understanding Catholic Public Domain vs Douay-Rheims in II Corinthians 12

Catholic Public Domain (CPDV)

Modern Catholic translation in the public domain with deuterocanonical books. Clear, contemporary English while preserving a formal tone. A strong option for Catholic reading plans and study.

Douay-Rheims (DRC)

Traditional Catholic English translation from the Latin Vulgate. Includes deuterocanonical books used in Catholic tradition. Best for readers who want a classic, historically influential Catholic Bible.

You are viewing a side-by-side comparison of II Corinthians 12 in the Catholic Public Domain and Douay-Rheims. Comparing these two versions can help shed light on the nuances of the original text.

Key Comparison: II Corinthians 12:16

CPDV

"And so be it. I have not burdened you, but instead, being astute, I obtained you by guile."

DRC

"But be it so: I did not burthen you: but being crafty, I caught you by guile."

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